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11-1-2017 MINUTES

Planning · Source meeting date: 2017-11-01 · Record 56984

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TOWN OF CANTON 
PLANKING BOARD MEE`II'ING 
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER g, 2017 
SALAH MEETING ROOM 
8®i WASHINGTON STREET 
7000 P.M. 
TOWN FILL 
MINUTES 
PresefO. Thomas Scully, Chairman 
Robert Panico, Vice Chairman 
Michael Mitcheroney, Clerk 
David McCarthy 
Patricia McDermott 
Also Present. Thomas Houston, Professional Services Corporation 
Laura Smead, Town Planner 
Karen Lawlor, Administrative Assistant 
Chairman Thomas Scully called to order the Planning Board meeting of 
November 1, 2017 at 7:00 p.m. 
A motion was made by Mr. Panico and seconded by Mr. McCarthy to open the public 
meeting. Motion Approved 5-0. 
Chairman Scully explained that a continuation has been requested to November 15, 2017, for 
the first hearing 468 & 474 NEPONSET STREET - DEFINITE SUBDIVSION PLAN 
("Copperwood Subdivision"). 
Next Item on the Agenda -- STILLWATER ESTATES (off Indian Lane & 
Industrial Drive) — Petition of Pine Street Realty Corp. — Special Permit and 
Approval of a Site Plan for a Flexible Definitive 4o -Lot Residential Subdivision Plan located 
on 92.86 acres. (Paul Brodmerkle, Site Design Professionals, LCC, Engineer) 
Patrick Considine introduced John Hamnet, the Business Manager for Tony Will, owner of 
the property. Mr. Considine stated that they have been working on the entrance going thru 
Indian Lane and the emergency exit thru Industrial Way. He was looking for a consensus of 
the Board if that is what they want. 
Mr. Brodmerkle explained a few items that they have been working on. Road B which runs 
north from Industrial Drive to the west side is approximately foo feet long and has curb 
roundings; it has a 12" water main thru the project; gravity sewer egress; and the first 400 
feet of Indian Lane uses a common driveway. There will be a "no commercial traffic" sign 
on the road; and the road is 24' to 27' at the narrowest part. The drains are up to standards 
which they collected; retain; recharge; and flow out to the rear and into a detention basin. 
Mr. Brodmerkle further explained there are two (2) new sections of roadway and one (1) 
existing roadway.

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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES 
NOVEMBER 1, 2017 
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Mr. Houston was concerned with the existing building and how they have been using the 
emergency road. 
Mr. Brodmerkle explained that there is 36o degrees of access around the building and they 
can define the edge of the pavement around the building. 
Ms. Smead stated that there were concerns from abutters with just keeping the emergency 
exit for emergencies. 
Chairman Scully wondered if the road is accepted in the future, should the foo feet be 
accepted too, or just kept as an emergency exit? 
Mr. Houston stated that the Town can't accept this emergency exit since it is Town Land, 
and it is just an emergency exit. The street is owned and not part of the public way process. 
Chairman Scully read a letter into the record from Mr. and Mrs. Fisher of 18o Indian Lane 
which they are concerned with the traffic. Planning Board: "Concerning the development 
on Indian Lane, Independence Road, and Route 138, the project is too big for the area. 40 
houses equals sixty or eighty more cars. Route 138 is impossible as it is now and Indian 
Lane might as well become Indian Expressway. I try never to go out after 3:00 on week- 
days, but when I have to, I always say the same thing: "I think we live in Downtown 
Boston." The urban sprawl is consuming the town. The project needs to be cut down to 20 
houses, or even 15, mostly concentrated in the wasteland area of the pits, and allow for 
some open space. Preserve some of the woods and the secluded pond out therefor the 
wildlife, and trees to buffer Indian Lane and keep its character as a scenic way. 
Remember, if people are complaining that there are deer or coyotes or other wildlife in 
their backyards, it's not the animals'fault. Tammy and Chris Fisher, 18o Indian Ln. 
Canton MA" 
Mr. McCarthy stated that he feels a deep hesitation that this emergency exit could become a 
full-fledged road and could become open or gated. 
Chairman Scully agreed and stated the Mr. McCarthy has valid concerns, and the Fire 
Department will have to review this issue. 
Mr. Brodmerkle further stated that this is a 40-10t flexible subdivision; at least 30,000 
square feet per lot; and completely conforming under the conventional plan. 
Chairman Scully brought up the "access to open space issue". 
Mr. Brodmerkle stated that there are ADA issues with the open space. There are numerous 
places to access the open space and the abutters would like a specific access to the pond. It 
will be up to the Conservation Commission if they will allow connecting the York Brook 
River to this property.