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Canton Finance Committee Minutes Voted on: 3/5/25 
801 Washington Street Vote: B-0-0 
Canton, MA 02021 
Finance Committee Meeting Minutes 
February 26, 2025 
Virtual Meeting 
Finance Committee Members Present: Dave Clough, Dan Cole, John Leonetti, Emilio Mauro, Maureen Menconi, 
Kristin Mirliani, Reuki Schutt and Cindy Thomas, 
Finance Committee Members absent: All Finance Committee members were present at the meeting. 
Guests Present: 
George Comeau, Chair, By -Law Modernization Study Committee (Article 18) 
Alan Hines, Trustee, Revere & Son Heritage Trust 
Ellen Jones, Recording Secretary 
Tracy Kenney, Town Clerk 
Lisa Lopez, Article 27, Canton Residents to Move the Vote 
Randy Scollins, Finance Director 
Jennifer Wexler, Article 27, Citizen Petition, Canton Residents to Move the Vote 
Call Meeting to Order: Mr. Mauro called the virtual meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Mr. Mauro introduced the Finance 
Committee members and the guests that were present at the virtual meeting. 
New Business: 
Dlscussion —FY26 Budget Request - #544— Revere & Son Heritage Trust —Quasi Department of the Town 
Mr. Scollins displayed meeting documents on the Zoom screen that were provided by Mr. Hines. 
Alan Hines, Trustee of Revere and Son Heritage Trust Corporation (RSHTC), confirmed that the Finance Committee 
members received all of the documents he emailed: R&S FY26 Budget Requests for Town's Essential Services, his 
PowerPoint Presentation, the Audited Finance Statements for year ended June 30, 2024 and the IRS Form 990 Tax 
Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax for July 1, 2023 through June 30, 2024. Mr. Hines stressed the point 
that all of the financials for the RSHTC do not go through the Town's financial accounting system. 
Mr. Hines stated that RSHTC is a Quasi Department in the Town with the authority to request town appropriations for 
their budget and capital needs similar to how other departments in the Town request funding for their budgets. The 
RSHTC is a non-profit 501(c)(3) Trust that raises funds from grants and charitable donations. Mr. Hines slated that the 
funds they raise are to build the Museum and to support the operations of the Museum and not to supplement Town 
appropriations. The RSHTC accounts are in the custody of the Town Finance Director, Randy Scollins 
RSHTC Insurance — Mr. Hines stated that RSHTC's insurance has been underfunded for the past 3 years. The cost 
of their insurance will increase once the $2.0 million of museum exhibits are added to the policy. Mr. Hines has 
requested a meeting with the Town Administrator to develop a way to have the RSHTC's insurances paid from the 
Town's Fixed Expense Insurance Budget #946 Town Insurance. 
Mr. Hines stated that most of the budget expenses being requested are basic appropriations for RSHTC to function as 
a Town department to manage the RSHTC properties and that it was always assumed the Museum would pay for itself. 
None of their FY26 requests relate to the Museum. 
RSHTC Audit — Mr. Hines stated that he was under the impression that the Town's Auditor would be performing the 
RSHTC yearly audit. He was shocked that the Town Audit did not include the RSHTC audit. The RSHTC Auditor, 
Michael Geier CPA, was impressed with the RSHTC's very complex Excel spreadsheets that were created by Randy 
Scollins and modified by Mr. Hines since. However, the Auditor stated to Mr. Hines that if the Trust does not have a 
closed accounting system next year they would not be willing to do their audit. Mr. Hines asked every member of the 
Finance Committee to write a letter to the Select Board and the Town Administrator requiring the RSHTC to have an 
annual audit. 
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RSHTC Audited Financial Statements for 2023-2024— The RSHCT had $686,085 of revenue, $175,977 of expenses 
for an increase to Net Asset of $510,108. He stated that since they started they have added a Net Asset Value of 
$902,224 to the Town. The RSHTC receives most of their revenue from grants, Mass Cultural Grant, state earmarked 
grants, Town appropriations and funds raised outside of the system. 
IRS Form 990, Part IX — Mr. Hines showed a slide with the following appropriations that die thinks the Town should be 
covering (these figures are per the 2023-2024 Audited Financials): 
Salary and Payroll Tax: $36,770 (requested budget $25,000) 
Office and Technology: $8,087 (requested budget $10,000) 
Professional Services: $19,350 (requested budget $15,000) 
Occupancy and Cleaning: $7,521 (requested budget $12,200) 
Insurance: $9,002 (requested budget $9,000) 
Programs (Heritage Day, Children's Concert): $5,000 (requested budget $5,000) 
Total expenses 2023-2024: $175,977 
Requested Budget: $76,200 
Town Appropriations: $66,200 
There was $25,000 of expenses that were reclassified because the services provided were considered part-time 
employees. 
Mr. Hines showed a slide that compared the FY2024-2025 Budget for Town's Services vs. Actual Costs. The total FY25 
requested budget is $117,788, approved FY25 budget is $88,783 with the FY25 expenses of $112,898. Approximately 
$24,155 of expenses were funded with donations. Mr. Hines complained that they did not realize the amount of taxes 
associated with their payroll expenses and that if the payroll had "run" through the Town's system these added 
expenses would have been adjusted in the base budget. 
RSHTC IT and Office Supplies — For FY25 the Trust's IT cleaning and Office Supplies is estimated to be $8.35 over 
the $2,000 budget covered by the Town. For FY26 the Trust is requesting a $9,500 increase for an IT budget of 
$11,500. Mr. Hines stated that their request is for basic needs for their employees including Zoom, Microsoft Office, 
Adobe, the same software packages that are provided to Town departments. Because they were so short in certain 
areas of the budget, they were forced to cut down on cleaning costs of the Barn to cover other costs. They need to get 
$24,000 of charitable contributions that he thinks the Town should cover. 
FY26 Budget Request — RSHTC - Mr. Hines made reference to the Executive Office budget that had a $24,957 
increase (due to contractual obligations) to their FY25 Voted Budget of $574,503 for a new FY26 Base Budget of 
$599,460. Mr. Hines claims that if the RSHTC financials had been "running through" the Town's financial system they 
would have had an adjusted base that was $42,631. He complained that the RSHTC did not have the luxury of receiving 
an adjustment to their base budget for FY26 like the Town departments received. If their budget had received an 
adjustment to the base budget, their budget would have increased from $33,500 to $58,800. 
Due to the enormous amount of time being spent by the Town's Finance Director/Treasurer Collector, Randy Scollins, 
on the handling of the accounting records for the RSHTC, it was eventually transferred over to retired Actuary Alan 
Hines. Mr. Hines stated that the RSHTC needs to have a plan whereby they have an individual that understands the 
books and to obtain accounting help to assist them with the process. Mr. Hines is hopeful that the Finance Committee 
will vote to have the RSHTC to have their books audited next year. 
Mr. Hines stated that It looks like they are only asking for an approximately $50,000 increase to their budget, but if their 
books were on the same books as the Town's books the only thing they are asking for is a new employee. Most of the 
other Items are contractual obligations that should have been covered by the Town's Fixed Costs Budget and an 
adjusted base budget. Their real ask is for a new employee but it looks like they need a $50,000 increase because 
they do not have the luxury of an adjusted base budget, 
A Finance Committee member slated that she was a bit confused with regard to all the expenses that are being 
identified and exactly how much revenue is being raised and how that revenue is being distributed. Mr. Hines replied 
that most of the revenue being received is through charitable contributions but that they need to put enough in their 
financial statement to be able to run the Museum. The 501(c)(3) was created to help fund and run the Museum. They 
are also using some of the revenues generated by the Northern Spy Restaurant. The Select Board have control over 
the restaurant revenue account and approve RSHTC's expenses out of this account. 
Approximately $600,000 of Norfolk County ARPA grant money that was received by the Town was specifically 
earmarked and used to pay for the RSHTC's expenses for the Museum design costs. 
The Town also has been approving capital requests to the RSHTC that have been used for such items as the purchase 
of a shed, a public restroom installation, and granite monument signs for the Heritage Park. The RSHTC declares 
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these items as assets and accounts for the depreciation of them in their financial statement. The net asset value of 
approximately $1 million includes the value of the Museum design, the design of the pavilion, the shed, and other items 
purchased with those donations. The Finance Committee member stated that the funds the RSHTC is raising is not 
really covering any of the RSHTC's G&A costs. Mr. Hines replied that the money they are raising has gone back into 
fundraising expenses, running a few programs and part of running the Museum. Mr. Hines stated that last year the 
Revere and Son Heritage Board of Directors donated more money than the Town appropriated to them to run their 
operation but that some of the Board's donations were specifically designated to be spent on programs or on certain 
things. 
Mr. Mauro referred the members to the Financial Statements prepared by Michael Galer, CPA. Mr. Mauro stated that 
the RSHTC audit should continue because It Is a Quasi Department of the Town and money from Town funds is being 
brought into it. Mr. Scollins stated that it is obvious that an audit of this operation should be done. His expectation as 
the Fiduciary of these funds is that there will be another audit and any aspect of the funds that flow through the Town 
are indeed audited. 
Mr. Hines stated that Mr. Scollins is on the RSHTC's bank account and that he can get downloads of any statements 
at anytime. Mr. Scollins requested that Mr. Hines send him reports similar to those he prepared monthly for the RSHTC 
Board on a periodic basis. Mr. Hines will provide to Mr. Scollins the spreadsheet that Mr. Hines will continue to maintain. 
Mr. Hines stated that there will always be differing opinions on what and how much the Town will pay for this museum 
project. Mr. Hines got on the Trust because he did not want his tax dollars going to building a Museum and that not 
many of his tax dollars have come through the Trust. It is Mr. Hines's opinion that the basic services that he is asking 
for the RSHT budget, whether this was a Museum or the buildings were being used as a Community Center, there is 
not an employee in the Town that is providing services or managing these properties and that it is solely the RSHTC 
responsibility. 
A Finance Committee member inquired about Mr. Hines's statement made that the RSHTC does not have the luxury 
of an adjusted base budget. The Committee member does not think it is a fair comparison when looking at the other 
32 tabs in his Finance Committee binder that they are evaluating as a Committee because the other 32 
areas/departments of the Town government do not have the luxury of raising funds like a 501(c)(3). He asked why the 
RSHTC should have the benefit of an adjusted base budget and the benefit of additional budget for expenses when 
the Trust has the ability, as an independent fundraising organization, to generate revenue independently for this 
enterprise/budget, 
Mr. Hines stated that as a 501(c)(3) they are not allowed to supplement Town expenses and that was not how they 
were organized. They were organized as a 501(c)(3) to raise funds and operate a Museum. Mr. Hines further stated 
that someone at the Town should be managing these two important assets of the Town —the Museum and the Rolling 
Mill. 
The Finance Committee member continued by asking if the RSHTC does has a $510,000 surplus, why is the Trust 
asking for additional funds when the Profit and Loss Statements seems to be showing a surplus to handle the expenses 
of this enterprise? Mr. Hines stated that they could afford to pay for the expenses out of their charitable contributions. 
The Finance Committee member questioned that if there is a $686,085 of revenue, why can't the expenses be paid out 
of that amount. 
Mr. Mauro also pointed out that part of that RSHTC surplus depicted in the audit for FY24 had been ARPA funds from 
the county that are a one-time revenue source for the RSHTC. 
Mr. Hines stated that he would be happy to provide a breakout of the $686,085 and how much of that is able to be 
spent on operating expenses. He stated it would be a very small portion. Most of the $686,085 is related to the Norfolk 
County ARPA grant. Mr. Hines stated that the Trust has been able to build up their checking account to pay for many 
expenses. A Museum Director will be hired but will be paid out of the rental Income from the Restaurant. 
The Finance Committee member stated that it is inconsistent for the Trust to compare themselves to a small startup 
business but yet they want to be treated with the same accounting standards as a government agency. He respected 
Mr. Hines's comment that he did not want his tax dollars going towards the Museum but yet is asking the Committee 
to support the approval of funds for the Museum, which could only get greater in the future. He asked if the Town 
should not be in the business of buying property and running buildings if there Isn't a well developed plan for them. He 
asked if there are other towns that run museums that are faced with financial challenges. Mr. Hines stated that the 
concept of a museum was considered when the property was acquired with three options considered: a building for 
municipal use, a building for School administrative offices and a Museum. The Feasibility Study included information 
to run a Museum, which included Easton Museum as an example. 
Mr. Hines stated that the RSHTC is building a $10 million asset for the Town (using state, federal and corporate funds) 
and they will have raised $5 million to build out the Museum by the end of the upcoming fiscal year. The Finance 
Committee member thanked Mr. Hines for all the time that he is putting in for this project and appreciates his passion. 
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A Finance Committee member stated that the commitment has been made to the project but she agrees with the phrase 
that RSHTC is a Quasi Department of the Town. She stated that the site is beautiful and the work that has been done 
is tremendous but that every year RSHTC comes to the Town for funding and that she and some of the other Finance 
Committee members have trouble with the argument that this should be treated like every other Town Department. 
This does not mean that the Finance Committee or Town is not supportive of the Revere site and the Museum. 
Mr. Hines asked, "what would it take to have someone in the Town's Accounting Office to take over the managing of 
all the financials of the RSHTC?" A Finance Committee member stated that, if the Town were to commit to this, he 
believes that the Town's "back office' should take over all the handling of the RSHTC financial/accounting system. 
Mr. Cole commented that it Is difficult to view the total scope of the RSHTC. Having a Total and Comprehensive 
Financial Statement for the RSHTC, including financials from the Town of Canton's books and the books of the 
501(c)(3), could be helpful when having to evaluate decisions with financial implications. 
Mr. Cole further suggested that the Town's Finance Operations should consider bringing the RSHTC into the Town's 
financial systems and to be supported by the Town's financial personnel. If the Town needs additional resources 
(personnel and equipment/software), they would be in the best position to make this happen and the risk of having one 
volunteer responsible for the RSHTC accounting would be eliminated. 
Mr. Scollins felt compelled to provide clarity. 1) It was stated that the Town does not provide any financial support for 
the buildings. That is an inaccurate statement. The Town is responsible for all of the exterior of both of those buildings, 
and is responsible for the mechanical systems in both of those buildings and there is an entire budget within the Parks 
and Recreation Department that is responsible for maintaining the entire park. There are a lot of Town resources that 
go into the operations of those buildings. 2) When Mr. Scollins was the Treasurer of the Trust he was providing a 
monthly statement to the RSHTC Board that captured all of the funding sources for the Trust and all of the associated 
expenses that were charged against those funding sources. He never could have sorted through the labyrinth that is 
the Revere and Son Heritage Trust's finances if he had not consolidated all of that onto one page with many supporting 
schedules. Mr. Scollins further stated he has not received anything to date since he left as the Treasurer that helps 
him to understand the finances of that operation at that level. 
Mr. Mauro stated that it would be beneficial to the Committee to understand how the $139,468 fits into the full RSHTC 
expenses and revenue streams and how it fits into the Trust as a whole and what percentage of the total expenditures 
that the Trust has are paid for by the Town versus other funding sources. Mr. Scollins requested some information 
from Mr. Hines who stated that he cannot do any more as a volunteer and that there is no one on their Board that can 
do the accounting work and that it is getting overwhelming for him to handle. If the $20,000 is not approved for a part- 
time position he will put a hold on the RSHTC article at Town Meeting. 
A Finance Committee member mentioned that he would like to see the RSHTC do more fundraising by hiring a 
professional fundraiser. The question remains as to who will own the Museum exhibits and who will Insure them. Mr. 
Hines stated that Representative Galvin is requesting $500,000 from the state budget for RSHTC. 
The RSHTC budget presentation ended at approximately 8:27 p.m. 
Mr. Mauro thanked Mr. Hines for the presentation and the start-up of these two assets of the Town. 
Discussion and Vote — Article 27 — Citizen Petition Article for Movina the Local Election Date 
Ms. Jan Wexler, presented a PowerPoint presentation (see meeting documents) to move the annual local election date 
from April to November. On November 12, 2024, the Move the Vote group (MTV) submitted a petition to the Select 
Board to permit a non -binding question to appear on the April 8' 1 ballot at which time the Select Board voted 3-2 against 
including the ballot initiative. A volunteer group of 30+ Canton voters collected 2,369 signatures in favor of a ballot 
initiative on the April 81, election ballot. In January 2025, the MTV submitted a warrant article for the May 2025 Annual 
Town Meeting (ATM). 
Some of the highlights of the discussion are as follows: 
• Article 27 is an article that will be considered at the ATM on May 12, 2025, but only if there is a favorable 
majority vote on the April 8, 2025, ballot question to move the vote from April to November. 
• if there are favorable votes at both the April 81° ballot question and the ATM Article, the Select Board would 
be allowed to proceed (but not required to do so) by filing a Home Rule Petition with the State Legislature to 
change the date of the local elections. Ms. Wexler stated that Senator Paul Feeney will champion the Home 
Rule Petition and seek to encumber additional funding for the Town Clerk's office if the Select Board decides 
to proceed with the Home Rule Petition. 
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